2024 Talguard Annual Letter
by Talguard•Thursday, January 30, 2025
As we close out another year, we are pleased to report another strong performance in 2024. While the broader market experienced significant momentum, our disciplined, quality-focused investment strategy continued to deliver steady gains. This consistency underscores our commitment to long-term value creation and our ability to navigate both opportunities and challenges.
Over the past decade, Talguard has consistently outperformed major indices. This track record is a testament to the resilience of our approach, which prioritizes quality investments, downside protection, and long-term growth.
2024 Performance Highlights
Despite a complex and evolving macroeconomic landscape, our investment approach yielded strong results in key sectors:
- Technology: The rapid evolution of artificial intelligence fueled growth across our tech holdings, particularly in software and next-generation hardware. One of our standout performers was Netflix, an investment we made near its bottom 2.5 years ago. The company’s dominant content development strategy, crackdown on password sharing, and rollout of an ad-supported subscription tier led to tremendous revenue growth. Netflix’s sophisticated recommendation algorithms continue to enhance engagement, reinforcing its competitive moat.
- Healthcare: The sector faced regulatory pressures and market volatility, particularly in December. While our healthcare holdings encountered short-term headwinds, we remain optimistic about select pharmaceutical and biotech stocks with strong long-term potential.
- Consumer Discretionary: The economic environment put pressure on lower-income households, while higher-income consumers maintained their spending. This divergence highlighted the importance of selectively investing in companies with strong pricing power and resilient demand.
Outlook for 2025
As we enter 2025, we remain cautiously optimistic. While opportunities abound, we are maintaining a prudent approach given current market conditions. Key factors shaping our strategy include:
Opportunities from Pullbacks: Valuation resets across various sectors have created attractive long-term entry points.
Inflation and Interest Rates: The U.S. economy performed better than expected in 2024, leading the Federal Reserve to pause or slow rate cuts. Inflation remains a key watchpoint as the Fed remains vigilant against overheating.
AI and Technology: The continued advancement of AI presents significant opportunities, though we remain mindful of the cyclical nature of hardware investments.
Healthcare Resilience: We expect select pharmaceutical and biotech stocks to recover, while keeping a cautious eye on structural challenges in the industry.
Navigating Broader Changes
The incoming administration brings potential shifts in economic policy that could impact markets:
Tariffs and Inflation: New tariff policies may drive up production costs, potentially increasing inflationary pressures. However, this could create opportunities for domestic manufacturers and supply chain realignments.
Defense Spending: Increased allocations to defense under a Republican-led government could benefit key sectors.
Labor Market Dynamics: Proposed policies on immigration and labor could influence wages and inflation. Meanwhile, AI and automation continue to drive efficiency gains that may counteract some of these inflationary trends.
Commitment to Long-Term Growth
At Talguard, we remain steadfast in our focus: investing in high-quality companies that generate strong cash flows, reward shareholders through buybacks and dividends, and offer long-term capital appreciation. While short-term volatility is inevitable, our commitment to compounding value over time remains unwavering.
Final Thoughts
We deeply appreciate your trust and partnership. Talguard’s decade-long track record of outperformance reflects the strength of our disciplined approach and our shared commitment to long-term success. As we begin 2025, we look forward to navigating the markets with the same focus and determination that have driven our success.
Here’s to another year of growth and opportunity.
CEO
Talguard Investments LLC
531 Main Street, Suite 1165
El Segundo, CA 90245
Tel: (310) 923-2138
Email: dan@talguard.com
This document does not constitute an offer to sell or a solicitation to buy membership interests in the Talguard Value Fund LP. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. All information provided herein is for informational purposes only.
Investment in the Fund will involve significant risks due to, among other things, the nature of the Fund’s Investments (as defined herein). Investment in the Fund is suitable only for sophisticated investors and requires the financial ability and willingness to accept the high risks in an investment in the Fund. No assurance can be given that the Fund’s investment objectives will be achieved or that investors will receive a return of their capital.
In making an investment decision, prospective investors must rely on their own examination of the Fund and the terms of this offering, including the merits and risks involved. Prospective investors should not construe the contents of this letter as legal, tax, investment or accounting advice. Prospective investors are urged to consult with their own advisors with respect to legal, tax, regulatory, financial and accounting consequences of their investment in the Fund.
2023 Talguard Annual Letter
by Talguard•Monday, March 4, 2024
Hope you had a great start to the year. Talguard did well in 2023, beating the pessimism by Wall Street experts who thought it would be another negative year for the Markets. Talguard beat most indices from around the world as seen in the chart included in your personalized Year End Report. We crushed our competition, the Barclay Hedge Fund Index, which measures average returns of over 3,000 hedge funds around the world.
After a tumultuous 2022 for the Stock and Bond Markets, the vast majority of Wall Street thought 2023 would be a continuation downward for financial assets. In many ways that should have been the case. 2023 saw the continuation of the war in Ukraine and the start of another regional war in Israel. Interest rates rose to a multi-decade high. Inflation reached a peak of 9.0% in the United States, and it was over 10% in many other parts of the world.
Pessimism abounded on Wall Street, but we stayed the course at Talguard and were rewarded for it. Of course it was not a completely smooth ride. There was a sizeable decline in the Market from August until late October. We took advantage of that drop and allocated more capital into new investments right before Halloween, and we benefited from that.
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Talguard technology stocks did well driven by the emergence of artificial intelligence, a timely investment in the tech media subsector, and continuation of software strength. |
What Went Up For Us In 2023?
Talguard was up due to strength in our Health Care and Technology stocks. Our Health Care investments went up due to our successful long term investment in Novo Nordisk, maker of both diabetes and obesity GLP-1 drugs and the consistency of our other stocks in this sector. This is against the back drop of the Health Care Industry coming under pressure from political rhetoric about cost and the current administration changing the rules to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
Our technology stocks did well too driven by the emergence of artificial intelligence, a timely investment in the tech media subsector, and continuation of software strength. Corporations in all industries have been spending to upgrade their hardware for the next generation of technology. It appears we are at an inflection point for A.I. spending. However, upgrading chips and hardware is not a consistent activity. The chip industry has been historically very cyclical.
What Went Down For Us In 2023?
Consumer staples such as snacks and other packaged foods along with restaurant stocks decreased due to the rise in popularity of GLP-1 drugs that fight obesity. Consumer discretionary had its ups and downs as the Market worried about potential weakening of consumer spending. In reality, consumer spending has remained resilient.
The rise of GLP-1 obesity drugs also negatively affected niche industries such as gyms, fake meats, and medical device makers that treat obesity. Good thing we are not invested in these industries.
What’s Ahead?
2024 brings many of the same predictions similar to the start of 2023 by Wall Street Market experts. Many think a big downturn is ahead due to the two regional wars in Ukraine and Gaza/Israel, potential weakening of consumer spending, commercial real estate bubbles, and a contentious Presidential Election. My view is that the Market often surprises most people. Historically, an Election Year with a sitting President seeking re-election has been fairly positive for the Market. Note that there are generally some downturns during the summer and fall leading into the Presidential Election.
In some aspects, valuations for many companies appear high. In other aspects, it is hard to argue this is anywhere near the mania of the dot-com bubble of the late 1990s. Back then most tech company darlings were not generating positive cash flows. Now you have Market leaders generating enormous positive cash flows and some growing by a lot year over year.
The great news is that as a long term investor, I am more focused on the long term prospects of the companies we invest in. Thus, I am less concerned about short term volatility than about making sure we invest in quality companies at reasonable valuations for the long run.
Passing of Charlie Munger
The legendary investor Charlie Munger passed away at 99, just one month short of his 100th birthday. I learned a lot from Charlie and his partner Warren Buffett’s investing style and tailored it to my own. We both seek quality companies to invest in for the long term. However, they generally invest in #2 companies of industries, I tend to focus on #1 leaders of industries. I am also more nimble in the size of companies I can invest in. My children and I had the opportunity to meet Charlie several times, which I will forever be grateful for. Charlie had a practical approach to life centered on “reading a lot”, “not doing stupid things,” and “avoiding envy of others”. I completely agree with these philosophies. Rest in peace Charlie.
Conclusion
Now it is a new year but our fundamental bottom-up investment process remains the same. The key is to invest for the long run with quality companies that you buy for a good price, and to recognize when to divest when necessary. The rest will take care of itself. Stocks may get depressed because of high inflation in the short run, but in the long run stocks of quality companies are one of the best hedges against inflation. This is because quality companies can raise prices, retain their customers and grow over the long run.
We do not evaluate investments or the Market environment on a quarterly or one year basis. Our time horizon is 5+ years, ideally forever for our investments assuming they stay dominant in their position and nothing fundamental changes. That is the only way you can achieve the power and benefits of compounding returns.
Here’s to a happy 2024 and beyond!
Best,
Dan H. Chen
President
Talguard Investments LLC
531 Main Street
Suite 1165
El Segundo, CA 90245
Tel: (310) 923-2138
Email: dan@talguard.com
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Talguard 2022 Year End Investment Note to Investors
by Talguard•Monday, January 2, 2023
The World closed the books on a tumultuous 2022. A war started in Ukraine, inflation topped a 40-year high of 9.1% in June 2022 and averaged 8.3% through November, and Covid continues to rage. This prompted the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates and start quantitative tightening which hurt asset prices across the board. That in turn led to a steep decline in transactions for new and existing home sales and refinancings.
Talguard beat most major indices and asset classes across the board by a substantial margin. For Talguard investors, you can see the results in the table included in your personalized Year End Report.
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Talguard Value Fund LP's investments in Health Care came in strong in 2022. In fact, that sector returned positive double digits. |
What Went Up For Us In 2022?
How did Talguard do this? We had strength in certain sectors. Our investments in Health Care came in strong. In fact, that sector returned positive double digits. Auto Parts, Energy, and Consumer Staples were additional sources of strength.
I added to our Aerospace & Defense investments in January 2022 which proved prescient on February 24, 2022, when Russia invaded Ukraine. Much of the World thought there was no way Russia would start a full-scale war on Ukraine, yet it did. Once started, the World then thought it would be over in two weeks but Ukraine has not only survived but they have taken the fight to the Russians by reclaiming territory.
We also made investments in some beaten-down companies that fit our quality standards and were undervalued during the year. They proved profitable.
What Went Down For Us In 2022?
We also saw a drop in our Consumer Discretionary, Building Materials, and Retailers categories. Other industries were more of a neutral bag. Most notably, none of the companies we have ever invested in has gone to zero or anywhere close.
What’s Ahead?
Now it is a new year but our fundamental bottom-up investment process remains the same. We did not drop as much as the Market in this big down year and we also had bigger gains during Market up years. The key is to invest for the long run with quality companies that you buy for a good price. And to recognize when to divest when necessary. The rest will take care of itself.
Stocks may get depressed because of high inflation in the short run, but in the long run stocks of quality companies is one of the best hedges against inflation. This is because quality companies can raise prices, retain their customers and grow over the long run.
We do not evaluate investments or the Market environment on a quarterly or one year basis. Our time horizon is 5 years+, ideally forever for our investments assuming they stay dominant in their position and nothing fundamental changes. That is the only way you can achieve the power and benefits of compounding returns.
Here’s to a happy 2023 and beyond!
Best,
Dan H. Chen
President
Talguard Investments LLC
531 Main Street
Suite 1165
El Segundo, CA 90245
Tel: (310) 923-2138
Email: dan@talguard.com
Confidentiality Notice: Please note this email communication is strictly confidential, and it is intended only for the recipients named in the email. The recipient of this email is not authorized to reproduce or forward this email or any attached documents in any way. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipients, please immediately notify the sender dan@talguard.com and delete this email communication from your computer and email account. Thank you.
2021 Talguard Holiday Letter To Investors By Dan H. Chen
by Talguard•Friday, December 17, 2021
Talguard Value Fund LP outperformed all major indices such as the Dow Jones, the S&P500, the Euro Stoxx 600, and the Shanghai Composite. Many major indices have negative returns this year such as the Corporate Bonds Index, High Yield Bonds Index, the Hang Seng Index, and Gold.
Cash Flow Assets:
Cash flow is king. That has been true for investments since the dawn of civilization. This is especially true as we head to a period of fluctuating inflation and rising interest rates. We continue to hold investments in our quality companies which we believe will ride out the main threats of inflation and rising interest rates in the coming years.
Our quality companies have proven most capable time and again to weather economic downturns and more recently, a global health pandemic. We will also take defensive measures when appropriate. We continue to avoid high flying companies that have negative cash flow valued at price to sales and companies that are loaded with debt.
2021 Talguard Annual Letter To Investors By Dan H. Chen
by Talguard•Tuesday, May 4, 2021
Technology:
I am a big fan of technology and the role it plays in improving human standards of living. Tech will also play an integral role in solving problems facing mankind such as resource shortages and global warming effects. As an investor, I look for companies with durable competitive advantages in this sector as I always do for any investment. One drawback for tech, it has a lot of companies with negative cash flow or inconsistent cash flow. Those companies are to be avoided.
I have favored software and financial technology companies (known as “Fin Tech”) in the Technology Industry. Software and Fin Tech companies have shown high returns on equity with lower capital expenditures (“cap-ex”) than pure hardware companies. More importantly, many of these software and fintech companies have subscription based models which I like. Tech hardware is similar to the canvas for artists. In contrast, software is similar to the artist who paints on that canvas and creates the most value in the process of creating a piece of artwork.
2020 Talguard Holiday Letter To Investors By Dan H. Chen
by Talguard•Tuesday, December 22, 2020
I am saddened for all the families and individuals who suffered losses amongst this tragic pandemic. Now, in less than a year, not one but two vaccines received FDA approval. The vaccines are the light at the end of this dark tunnel. Furthermore, we had a Presidential Election with the result contested by the incumbent President. We had Central Banks around the world lower interest rates and commit to long term quantitative easing effectively printing large sums of currency. And to think, the year is not even over yet.
Fiscal Stimulus and Monetary Stimulus:
End of Summer 2020 Talguard Letter To Investors By Dan H. Chen
by Talguard•Friday, September 18, 2020
Our Talguard Fund has done well with a more balanced portfolio unlike the S&P500 which has depended on the tiny group of 5 technology stocks for its rebound. The S&P500 is a market cap weighted index. As it stands, the S&P500 is overly skewed towards the technology sector with a weighting of approximately 30% of the index. If you look at the S&P500 equal weighted index where all 500 companies are represented equally, that is still down (-4.1%) for the year-to-date through September 17, 2020. Our Fund being not dependent on anyone single sector has helped us in the long run.
I am optimistic we will continue to navigate these uncharted waters. Economic activity has continued to pick up and some pockets have surprised on the upside. Unfortunately, many in our country from different walks of life do not take this virus seriously. That is why the U.S. has over 40,000 new cases a day and it will likely get worst this fall as indoor activity picks up and as people get tired of social distancing.
COVID-19 is remarkable because it caused a greater part of the world to shut down than previous health crises. This is the first pandemic that effectively shut down great swaths of economic activity across the globe simultaneously. The 1918 Flu Pandemic and the 1980s HIV Pandemic did not do the vast shutdowns like COVID-19. Unlike recent flu outbreaks, COVID-19 has a longer incubation period once infected of up to 14 days. Worst still, COVD-19 is often asymptomatic. It is also the most deadly cold virus we know of compared to other cold viruses.
Another factor is that the U.S. shutdown was uneven across the country and it was never a full shut down. Every state had their own policy on a shutdown and the issue of wearing masks became a political issue. Now the U.S. has one of the highest numbers of infected people in the world and the highest death count. The fact is we have 5% of the world population but more than 20% of known infections and deaths. Much of this was preventable and it is one of the greatest self inflicted wounds our country has done to itself. It did not have to be this way.
What happened with the Stock Market?
At the start of this pandemic in the first quarter of this year, the U.S. Stock Market experienced one of the fastest asset price drops in history. The Stock Market went down over 30% in 4.5 weeks from February 19, 2020 until March 23, 2020. Many stocks of companies most affected by COVID-19 declined over 70%. The Talguard Value Fund fared much better during that period.
Since the lows of late March, stock prices had a record fast rebound. The Stock Market climbed back to near all time highs within just five months. To give you context, the Stock Market declines for the 2000-2002 and 2007-2009 recessions took 28 months and 18 months, respectively, to decline from peak to trough.
2020 Update Note To Investors In The Time Of COVID-19
by Talguard•Thursday, May 7, 2020
First, the Federal Reserve came out with over $4 trillion of liquidity support and is pledging unlimited Quantitative Easing. Second, the Federal Government came out with $2.2 trillion of fiscal support. Expect more support in the coming months. Third, the efficacy of Gilead’s Remdesivir has provided a real turning point in that humanity now has a treatment works to some extent and it is a building block to for future treatments against COVID-19. Remdesivir’s trial results with a double blind placebo study with the National Institutes of Health have help to extend the rebound. Fourth, state governments are easing shutdowns and companies are discussing how to reopen offering more hope to investors. Fifth, there is hope of a working vaccine produced at a record shattering pace.
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There is hope of a working Covid-19 vaccine produced at a record shattering pace. |
This current Market upturn has a lot of risk. Every asset class in the world is strictly reacting and moving to any news related to the COVID-19 virus. At some point, economic reality will set in and many investors will realize that some industries and companies are changed until we have a vaccine.
The economic reality is grim in the next two years. Over 33.5 million Americans have filed for unemployment benefits in a record shattering 7 weeks. That is 20% of the American workforce. Millions more are going to do so in the coming weeks. I do not believe everyone will return to the work force right away even if a vaccine arrives. For example, several high profile retailers recently filed for bankruptcy and laying off over a 100,000 workers combined. I am not confident all of these workers will find new employment soon. Where will they go? The jobs market is in a deep recession and it will take time to come back.
2020 Annual Letter To Investors
by Talguard•Sunday, March 8, 2020
COVID-19 and Rational Thought:
The recent virus outbreak that originated in Wuhan, China, dubbed the “Corona Virus”, and officially COVID-19, has dominated world headlines for months. It rattled Chinese stock markets first and those markets have bounced back in a certain degree. Whether there will be a pullback again remains to be seen. The infection rate has slowed in China due to their drastic measures of implementing a mass quarantine of an entire province. What is bizarre is that the initial quarantine had a four day warning period which meant over 5 million people were able to escape the quarantine zone prior to the borders closing for the Hubei Province. Nevertheless, the drastic measures instituted in China including construction of 11 temporary hospitals in a week appeared to have an effect in slowing down the spread of COVID-19 within China.
The contagion has now spread to dozens of countries with hotspots in Japan, South Korea, Italy, and Iran. COVID-19 cases have developed in all continents except Antarctica. It has spread to the United States and I surmise the number infected will rise as more tests are done and milder cases are identified. I wish our government in the U.S. including the Trump Administration and the CDC would push for more testing sooner. We need more testing kits and other measures to identify who has the virus to better contain its spread.
The Korean Journal of Radiology stated CT Scan images can be an effective way to identify COVID-19 and is more accurate than X-ray images. In addition, COVID-19 appears to be “radiologically milder” than both SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) and MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome). It is an alternative to the testing kits now which appear to not have the highest accuracy rates. We need to be doing more to test who has the COVID-19.
Part of the problem of what has spread so much fear is the incubation period of COVID-19. A person infected may not exhibit symptoms for up to 14 days. Compare that with common flu strains which usually produces symptoms within four days of contracting it. That is why it bewilders me how the U.S. and many other countries that have cases are not testing more. People are out there who may have it and do not know it and that is pushing the spread of the virus.
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Image provided by United Nations COVID-19 Response. People are out there who may have it and do not know it and that is pushing the spread of the virus. |
According to Worldometers.com as of March 8, 2020, there are currently over 110,000 people have the virus and over 3,800 deaths worldwide and both are expected to rise. Over 62,200 have recovered thus far. Of the active known cases, approximately 38,000 are mild (86%) and approximately 6,000 are serious (14%). The death rate has been the lowest in South Korea because they have been testing at a rate of over 10,000 a day. The U.S. and other countries really needs to step up testing across the country. Although more testing kits are being sent in the coming weeks, I find that Western governments have dropped the ball here. We should follow the lead of China, Japan, and especially South Korea when it comes to testing.
It has caused stress on global supply chains and reduced travel in a significant way. Economic activity, especially social activity and leisure activity have and will slow down if not grind to halt. Cruises, flights, hotels, and amusement park stays are postponed or canceled. Box office revenues for theaters in China and Italy have been reduced by approximately 85% and 75%, respectively, for the first two months of 2020.
In theory, warming weather as we head into the spring and summer should help reduce the outbreak but there is no guarantee. I do not think the panic and fear will subside until you see a worldwide slow down of the infection rate similar to what you are seeing in China.
2019 Holiday Letter To Investors
by Talguard•Wednesday, December 25, 2019
I strongly believe we are positioned well in case there is a downturn because I am cognizant of the recent run up in the Stock Market and many other asset classes. However, that does not mean you want to sell everything and “head for the hills”. I have heard from some people who have sold out or continue to reduce their equity positions out of fear of overvaluation. My answer is that they would have missed out on substantial gains. As mentioned, many of our investments have been compounding for years and as long as their durable competitive advantage stays with them, we will continue to own their shares. I can not predict what will happen to the Stock Market in the next several days or months. I can predict if those who hold the equities of businesses with durable competitive advantages over the long run will do well. I am investing for the next 10+ years, not the next 100 days.
We did and will continue to make investments with what we always do, which is to invest in companies we deem to have durable competitive advantages, companies that treat shareholders fairly, and are reasonably priced. Overall I seek to invest in “Number Ones”, which means I seek to invest in the equities of market leaders in their respective industry niches.
We head into the New Year and New Decade with a sense of optimistic caution. Many things have gone right to create the current economic expansion that has resulted in a low unemployment economy. America continues to innovate and it punches above its weight for worldwide brands. Although it has been the longest expansion ever in American History at over a decade, it can certainly continue. Look at Australia, which had an expansion for over two decades. However, underneath the surface there are items that provide caution.
Central banks around the world have continued their long term Quantitative Easing (“QE”) and push rates lower, to negative in many countries. This is not good news for commercial banks and other financial institutions that lend money. In the long run, banks need to have positive rates to generate profit. They make money on the net interest spread and that continues to be compressed. The constant QE and other monetary stimulus done by Central Banks are a danger to the world economy. Central banks trying to stave off recession are only creating a larger asset bubble. Eventually the piper is paid.
Negative yields over the long run are unsustainable. No investor wants to be paid negative interest rates for the use of their capital. This may happen for a period of time but I suspect governments that keep rates negative will experience a deflationary period that can create long term stagnation. Look at what happened with Japan for the past three decades. Germany’s Bund (Germany’s government bonds) just crept back to positive but it is still near historic lows. Some economists argue if there are a lack of alternatives, then people would accept this negative rate. This makes no sense. I do not agree there are no alternatives. Central banks can choose not to expand balance sheets for example. Federal governments can push for growth through fiscal policies. In my mind sound fiscal policy is the engine that drives sustainable long term economic growth. Monetary policies can alleviate strong term economic stalls but it is not the answer for a long term economic game plan for growth. For example look at Sears, no amount of financial engineering could save that company because its core business was fundamentally flawed. The core business is the fiscal policy. Fiscal policy is what creates a better engine for sustainable economic growth. Monetary policy is more like a sound dashboard and accessories that complement the core fiscal policy engine. Sound fiscal policies and monetary policies together dovetail to create proper incentives. Wrong incentives lead to bad behavior.
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Automation, artificial intelligence (“A.I.”), and robotics will decrease existing positions across all economic classes but it will hit middle income and lower income families the hardest. |
Unemployment has been low but many are still underemployed or not in the job they want. The American Middle Class continues to shrink. Automation, artificial intelligence (“A.I.”), and robotics will decrease existing positions across all economic classes but it will hit middle income and lower income families the hardest. For example, the biggest employer for American males without college degrees is the driving industry. This industry includes truck drivers, cab drivers, ride-hailing drivers, and bus drivers. Someday there will be A.I. driven vehicles that might take over most if not the whole industry. It may not happen in the next several years but it has a great chance to happen eventually.
2019 Mid Year Letter
by Talguard•Thursday, July 25, 2019
1. U.S. – China Trade War:
There is unlikely to be a permanent trade deal in the near future, especially one that gives each side what it seeks on a long term basis. This will likely hurt the U.S. and Chinese economies in the near term. Even if there is a deal, there is a possibility the next U.S. President will want to change it or get rid of it. Due to the gerrymandering of our federal political system, the two parties have much less reasons to compromise. This has happened in Congress for the past two decades and now it has moved into the Executive Branch culminating in the current administration’s all out goal of rubbing out previous administration policies. This is likely to continue with the inflammatory political environment that we are in.
If you examine the history of tariffs in America and also other countries, the evidence is quite clear that blanket tariffs do not work. It ultimately is a tax on the businesses and consumers of the countries that instigate the tariffs. Free trade has tremendous benefits for recipients that are not seen as easily. It produces savings across the board for consumers over the long run. There is a reason rich cities and countries have practiced and pushed for trading. All countries have used tariffs throughout history and they are in effect today. That includes the U.S. and other western countries who push free trade. The U.S. uses tariffs too for a variety of basic materials and finished products. Plus the U.S. has mass subsidies for a variety of industries, the largest being the farm subsidies. Besides subsidies, the U.S. government will commit to purchasing some of the products of these subsidized industries to prop up prices.
I spent time in Hong Kong and Mainland China and there were a few revelations. China is way ahead of the United States and the rest of the world in the payments game. China has the most advanced touch less payment ecosystem in the world and it has significant market participation. Cashless and touch less payments are so embedded in Chinese society that street beggars have cardboard backed cutouts with payment ID codes on them so people can scan to give them money.
Many supermarkets and restaurants do not even accept hard currency. It really hit home when our private driver stopped at a gas station to refuel. At that convenience store, we picked up a few snacks and a store worker was standing in front of tall blue screens asking us to scan our products. We were expected to pay with our mobile phone. After some confusion, a worker behind the counter figured out we wanted to pay by hard currency since our mobile app we downloaded did not work so she waved us over. It was not often people pay by hard currency she mentioned and she called our money “ancient money”. Contrast that with American payments. It took years after Europe smart chip cards before U.S. retailers adopted the technology. Many payments are still processed by a variety of methods. Meanwhile in China, almost every consumer purchase is done digitally in consolidated apps and in touch less form. America is far from integrating touch less payments and there are zero consolidated apps for payments.
China is also leading in a variety of consumer technologies. It is a top two competitor alongside the United States in the race for artificial intelligence (“AI”). It has a faster embrace of consumer robotics and as already discussed a faster embrace of payment processing. China is now the main competitor to the race for 5G connectivity. Whoever gets there first will have the opportunity to formulate the rules that future wireless apps and software are written on. Most of the Chinese population skipped the lan line times and leapfrogged into mobile devices.
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The Federal Reserve is trying to get ahead of a recession. |
2. The Federal Reserve:
The Federal Reserve is now too much of an agent of the Market and its nonstop propping up of asset prices is a huge volatility trigger. In December 2018, the Federal Chairman stated how it wanted to tighten credit. Then after unprecedented criticism from a sitting President, the Federal Reserve reversed course and said they would be accommodating in keeping interest rates low. Now the Federal Reserve communicated that they are going to cut rates.
2019 Talguard Annual Letter By Dan H. Chen
by Talguard•Monday, March 25, 2019
Remember, this letter and the year end numbers are a snap shot in time. I view investments in the ultra long term. So if we are up one year I am not overly delighted, nor do I panic with a down year. You can pick any longer term period and we are most certainly up, such as the last 18 months or 2 years versus the Barclay’s Hedge Fund Index that we benchmark.
In this letter I will describe three of the largest topics in the economy today: the China-US trade discussion, the Federal Reserve, and business earnings. In addition, the division in politics has sharpened in recent times and the cloud of investigation continues to follow this Administration. The full contents of the Mueller Report is not currently made available to the public or even to Congress. If the Mueller Report is released in full it can cause market volatility and if it is not released it will cause an outcry from the Democrats which can also cause short term volatility. Regardless of party affiliation, I believe the American public has a right to read the complete Mueller Report to make a judgment for themselves after the American public has paid for a 22 month very high profile investigation. Every other special counsel report in history has been made public including Ken Starr’s report on the investigation of Bill Clinton, this should be no different. However, none of these factors have deterred me from continuing to hold our equity positions in cash flow generating companies. Regardless of which party is in power, American businesses have performed very well over time.
First off, let me repeat what I have told each and every one of you. I have not the faintest idea of what the Stock Market will do in the next several weeks or the next 12 months. What I am highly confident in is that over the long run, I fully expect the earning power of the businesses we invested in to grow over time. This creates a compounding effect. I have deemed compounding returns as the fifth fundamental force in the Universe.
More importantly, I am a firm believer in the prospects of the United States for the long run. Another market I find long term opportunities for investment is China. In addition, a small percentage of our portfolio is in Europe. Those are the three core markets that Talguard focuses on. However, we will consider quality investments anywhere on Earth or beyond. The majority will be in America. America is truly the land of bountiful opportunity and the system has produced tremendous growth. China will continue to have opportunities for investment.
Right now, we are more cautious in our approach as some of the risks mentioned above have just been delayed, not resolved. There are signs inflation has picked up. Technology and innovation across industries have been a great force against inflation. Look at the purchase of a vehicle. The average midsize sedan with a lot more features can be purchased for less inflation adjusted money than the same class of vehicle from thirty years ago. However, some Consumer Price Index ("CPI") categories have experienced high inflation rates. For example, health care and college costs have experienced inflation rates much higher than 2% a year in recent years. Healthcare costs as a percentage of GDP is now 18% and that is more than every other industrialized nation. For all that money spent on healthcare you would think the United States would have a better outcome but we currently rank 31st in the world for life expectancy, just ahead of Cuba at 32nd place.
On a grander note on leverage, there have been large amounts of debt borrowed by companies and governments in recent years. Central banks in industrialized countries have issued unprecedented rounds of quantitative easing. The United States federal debt level and deficits continue to climb and the current pace of borrowing is not sustainable. At some point the amount of debt level, the debt maintenance expense, and cost of borrowing needed will be too much if the current pace keeps up. The 2018 tax cut accelerated the debt balance increase and deficits. However, the federal debt and deficit in the U.S. is currently manageable and it does not hamper my opinion of America’s economic prowess.
Large amounts of debt have been borrowed by private equity firms and corporations due to low interest rates. Private equity firms have driven up prices for their acquisitions and often times have overpaid for acquisitions because they are competing with each other with this “cheap money”, also known as low interest rate loans. Private equity firms buy out whole companies by loading them up with a lot of debt and then they will try to reduce operating costs, sell divisions, and other financial engineering before taking them public again or selling the company privately. These are leveraged buyouts, a term that has fallen out of favor from the 80s. In my view, private equity firms should really be called “private debt” companies because they are all about borrowing high amounts of debt while contributing as little equity as possible. This creates operating leverage, or also known as “juiced returns” which is a real risk to the companies they own. This has also contributed to higher asset prices.
Take an extreme example, if you borrow at a rate of 90% debt to 10% equity to purchase an asset and the value of that asset goes up 10% then you have doubled your money. The problem is if the value of your asset goes down 10% then your equity is wiped out. In other words leverage works both ways. Leverage can juice your returns but it can destroy your equity quickly. Too much leverage creates a situation where it can hurt cash flows because the company has to service the debt with principal and interest payments. Most importantly, debt will eventually come due and the borrower will have to pay it off or refinance.
Corporate debt usually has maturities of less than 10 years. Many companies who take out loans also have multiple loans, known as tranches. Multiple tranches often due at different years means these companies are in the Market frequently to refinance. Most of the time this is not a problem. However, if credit markets seize up as they occasionally do such as in 2008, then the company is in trouble.
Furthermore, too much leverage often leads these companies to skimp on investing in growth or reinvesting cash to maintain the business, also known as maintenance capital expenditures. Retail chains are especially susceptible to this phenomenon where store floors get dirtier, burned out light bulbs are not replaced, paint fades, employee morale decreases, and the overall look deteriorates. It forms a vicious negative reinforcement cycle. A few examples include Toys R Us, Sears, and Mervyn’s. Online competition and big box competition certainly hurt these examples but much of their demise stems from taking on too much debt. The same is true of venture capital, there is too much capital chasing the next home run start up.
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Opportunities for long term investment trade between America and China will continue. |
America and China Trade Dispute:
The Chinese economy has been slowing for several years regardless of the recent trade dispute with the United States. China’s economy is undergoing a large scale transition to a services economy. It is also a matter of size. Now that China’s GDP is so large, it takes many more billions to grow the same percentage. The law of large numbers is at work here. A structural effect of using debt to fuel growth is that it is dependent on government liquidity injections every time China’s economy slows. The problem with relying on government stimulus is that it is similar to a drug addiction, it takes stronger doses to have the same effect with each subsequent use.
In China’s defense, other central banks around the world have used stimulus as well. Central bank stimulus spur more financing for projects. A systemic concern to China has been the one child policy creating a smaller next generation population. Although the policy has been loosened to two children per couple, there will be a bottleneck effect in the next several decades. However, that does not mean there is no opportunity. Quite the contrary, there are untapped pockets of opportunity. Plus a slowdown will most likely create investment opportunities for long term investors.
I am a big believer in the Chinese economy in the long run and the outstanding opportunities there. China has created a competing economic system of what I call State Sponsored Capitalism where many major industries are dominated by large corporations with the Chinese Government as the majority shareholder. Economic zones and 5 year plans where certain areas get extra funding and less regulation have created sprawling metropolises. For example, look at the modern city of Shenzhen. Just a few decades ago it was a fishing village. Now it is a hub of manufacturing, research, development, and technology with over 12 million people. That is larger than any U.S. city. However, there has been room for private companies to emerge as well. The Chinese Government can push head long into new sectors by sponsoring nascent companies.
2018 Talguard Annual Letter By Dan H. Chen
by Talguard•Tuesday, August 28, 2018
We had a terrific year. This is not only because of our outsized return. I am very satisfied because we outperformed both metrics that I measure Talguard against which is the Barclay Hedge Fund Index and secondarily against the S&P 500 With Dividends Index.
In the long run, I am ever confident in America’s prospects. Our children will live better than us. Relative to current interest rates valuations are not overly heated. However, if interest rates rise they are like gravity to asset valuations. For the past 40 years, interest rates have had a long term downward trajectory. The current interest rate gravity environment is so low it’s like an astronaut living on the Moon. Eventually that astronaut will come back to Earth and it will be difficult to adjust to the heavier gravity. That is the situation we are in with stocks and interest rates. I fully expect our strategy to outperform and really shine when a downturn comes.
Talguard’s Year:
Many of my ideas have proven correct and we substantially grew the value of our assets. The Market may go up or down but I fully expect the earning power of the companies in our portfolio to compound every year. Some volatility has returned to the Market in recent weeks. You will be happy to know our investments continue to perform well. The recent rumblings are potentially tremors for larger volatility at some point in the future. There are several market distortions that are affecting the bigger picture: stimulation from Central Banks and recent government policies resulting in interest rates that are artificially low, the rise of passive investment funds, the rise of leveraged investment funds, and the amount of worldwide leverage on a personal level and government level.
These factors will create outstanding opportunities for us when they arise. In the meantime, we continue to stay invested in the fantastic businesses that we own for our current capital. I treat investing in stocks as ownership interests in businesses, not as a pieces of paper with prices that go up and down.
Talguard’s Strategy and Objective:
Talguard Value Fund LP is a private investment fund that seeks to deliver superior returns by investing in the equities of companies with durable competitive advantages purchased with a margin of safety. The goal is to beat the S&P 500 Index and the Barclay Hedge Fund Index over the long run.
I am looking for a very specific type of company for investment. These companies are often #1 in their niches, many years of consistent and growing cash flow, and certain other attributes. Most importantly, these companies often have multiyear catalysts that will generate value over time. Once identified, I will seek a discount to intrinsic value prior to investing. However, I rather invest in great companies at fair valuations instead of fair companies at great valuations. I seek are often multiyear compounders.
Our portfolio consists of two groups of investments. The first group I call “Core” companies that will often stay in our portfolio for the long run. These are great companies that I invest in either at discounts or at reasonable valuations. For these Companies, holdings can be lowered when valuations are too high and they can be added on when prices take a dip.
The second group of investments that we hold is what I call “Opportunity” companies. These are companies with many of the attributes as Core Companies but could be a step below. The Market usually has discounted these companies heavily either because of a short term weak earnings quarter or several quarters, an idiosyncratic sector selloff, or other very specific reason. I like to invest with a discount to intrinsic value here but I am also patient. Patience can result in Opportunity company stocks providing a larger discount to intrinsic value.
As an emerging fund, we have a distinct advantage over large funds. We can be nimble while they often have to follow esoteric rules. Just because a well known fund is larger does not mean it performs better. In fact, a variety of studies have shown that emerging funds have often outperformed these larger funds. The most significant example is a comprehensive study produced by Nick Motson, Andrew Clare, and Dirk Nitzche, three finance professors at the City University London. They surveyed 7,261 funds for 20 years from January 1995 to December 2014. They found that the largest 10% of funds returned an average of 7.32% a year for a total of 410.8% return over those 20 years. The smallest 10% of funds returned an average of 9.00% a year for a total of 560.4%. A $1 million investment in the largest funds category results in a balance of $4.1 million while the same investment in the smallest funds category results in a balance of $5.6 million. Of course, past performance is no guarantee of future results but the historical evidence is there.
A number of high profile large funds not only continue to underperform the Market over multiple years, but they have negative returns while the Market has enjoyed a near decade bull run. Larger funds do not necessarily translate to better results.
My strategy has an additional advantage that many emerging funds do not possess. Talguard has invested primarily in large cap and mid cap companies which mean our strategy is highly scalable. Many emerging funds are focused on small cap and micro cap companies. They cannot take on too much more capital investing the same small companies because the float on those shares is much smaller. They would alter the Market for those shares.
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Health Care, Biotech, and Pharmaceuticals companies are providing very real benefits and services to their end users and to society. |
2017 Mid Year Letter By Dan H. Chen At Talguard Investments LLC
by Talguard•Tuesday, August 22, 2017
General Thoughts On World Markets:
The Stock Market (the “Market”) has enjoyed one of the longest runs of positive gains in history. This has caused many investors to flock to popular stocks, often chasing companies that have negative net income, high leverage, and generally money losing enterprises. Many investors chase dreams and hopes that these companies will eventually turn a profit. Some of the popular companies are profitable but priced for perfection.
Margin debt has risen to much higher levels. Leveraged investments such as leveraged ETFs have higher risk for those who are exposed when there is a downturn. They will be hit the hardest when a down turn comes.
What caused this extended bull market? Starting with the recession and subsequent years, the U.S. Federal Reserve took the lead with lowering interest rates to historic lows and a historic purchasing of debt with its quantitative easing policy. Central banks in other countries followed suit. This period has made money cheap with low interest rates. These factors contribute to asset inflation.
If interest rates continue to stay low then current asset prices are still undervalued. However, if rates start reverting back to a historical average, then prices are highly valued.
Interest rates are like gravity to asset prices. We have operated in a low gravity environment similar to an astronaut making a jump on the moon. Sooner or later the astronaut has to come back to Earth and face the gravity he normally lives in.
Passive funds have also pushed up prices with their indiscriminate buying of all stocks in their respective indices. Many stocks have become overpriced relative to their intrinsic value. These passive funds are creating market valuations that will benefit patient active investors.
What is peculiar about the current bull market is that most major markets around the world have also enjoyed extended runs and there is relatively low volatility. The current productivity revolution continues with robotics and software algorithms. New methods to access previously hard to drill oil and natural gas along with the rise of hybrid/electric vehicles have pushed those prices far lower. Crop yields and animal herd efficiencies have created more supply. Underemployment and skill set mismatches have caused labor prices to trail historic increases. These forces have created a period of low inflation.
However, interest rates, volatility, and inflation may not stay low forever. At some point, the Central Banks cannot and will not hold on to the immense amounts of debt they purchased during the recession and subsequent years. When the Fed keeps raising rates and it starts selling off some of these notes, it will cause a head wind for stocks and other asset classes. The first phase of selling will occur in the coming months.
My value approach has outperformed the market and most other funds in a time when many are chasing growth and throwing caution to the wind.
I still find good bargains for quality companies in this current environment. However, I am cautious heading into this fall and I have positioned our partnership to be ready to take advantage of terrific opportunities that arise. I suspect there will be significant opportunity in the near future and we will be ready to strike and strike hard when the opportunities arise. It is a good time to invest in Talguard.
While we have performed well, I am more excited when outperforming the Markets during down turns. This is where my strategy of buying #1s with demonstrated cash flow and margin of safety will help us survive the one year that no one else does.
Why My Value Approach Works To Safeguard And Grow Your Assets In The Long Run:
The Wall Street Journal recently reported that many analysts are questioning the viability of value investing given the recent run up in the Markets. I disagree. It reminds me of the crowd following mindset of “this time it’s different”. Cash flow and value has proven to generate outsized returns for the long run. It is not what you make in the short run that counts, it is whether you can keep your gains in the long run that matters.
Value investing is the approach of finding great companies at reasonable to greatly discounted prices. This approach works because if you invest in the right companies at the right prices you have the opportunity to generate outsized long term returns. You reduce short term capital gains taxes and you can go to sleep at night knowing your stocks will survive during downturns, especially during financial panics. You can ride out the storm.
My goal is to preserve wealth and then to grow it. Preserving wealth is often the greatest concerns for wealthy individuals, families, and institutions. There is an ancient Chinese saying that wealth does not last past three generations. I want to help preserve and grow assets for the long run.
As you can see with the partnership’s outsized returns, value investing does not mean low returns during boom times. My strategy really shines in preserving wealth when during market downturns. So how do I do this?
I am an asset allocator and I treat myself as an owner of each company I invest in. I seek to find the best companies that have durable advantages and allocate according to their valuation and strength of business. I focus on market leaders that generate long term cash flow and treat shareholders well.
The way to preserve and grow wealth for the long run is to buy quality at reasonable prices. I seek to invest in quality companies that are number #1’s in their niches that have durable competitive advantages. I desire a margin of safety to ensure we sleep comfortable at night and that we will weather downturns when fear grips the Market. I like companies that generate lots of cash flow and then utilize that cash flow in a shareholder friendly manner. Downturns will come. It is those who survive those storms that will see the massive fruits of a future boom when the sun shines again.
It is a great time to be alive. The advancement of human ingenuity is advancing at a quickening pace. In our lifetime, we will see the discovery of more than twin for our home world. The advancement of the medical field will prolong our lives much longer on average than any previous generations in human history. There is a good chance we will detect some form of extraterrestrial life in our lifetime.
We will live older while retaining our health. Longevity has profound implications for investments. Eventually, technologies such as organ regeneration, implants, and next generation medicine will make its way onto the field.
So where does that leave us for our investments?
It is great news for Talguard investors. We will have many more years to compound returns. The power of reinvested capital compounded over many years is geometric. We will compound with many more years than any investors in previous generations.
Past Investment Examples:
I have learned a great deal from investors and other people throughout history. I have learned from the best through the power of reading. I read as much as I can every day. It is targeted reading that gives me the base knowledge about companies and industries that gives rise to my investments.
I seek to invest in #1 companies, I want dominant companies that will crush their competition. In the midst of the Great Recession and Financial Crisis, I invested in a leading financial services company starting in 2010. This Company is the ultimate toll booth company and had three separate decade-long catalysts that the market was missing. This investment generated a compound return of over 20% a year.
I never invest in companies hoping they will be bought out. If you invest correctly, buy outs are a natural course. Since all my companies are #1 market leaders in their niches they have attractive business traits that can attract acquirers. They also often have very little debt which makes them attractive to private equity firms and business competitors because they can borrow against the assets for the buy outs.
We owned shares of Precision Cast Parts before it was bought out by Warren Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway. Three other investments have also been bought out. Each investment was made after the Market pushed their stock prices down due to short term concerns. These investments performed well and coincidentally were bought out making us a nice bonus profit. I much rather have owned them for longer periods. Alas, most shareholders voted for selling out.
As mentioned, I never invest in companies hoping or predicting they will be bought out. That is not the way I work. I think long term for my investments. If they happened to be bought out then we move on with the proceeds to seek new candidates for investments.
Next I discuss some industries of interest below.
Financial Services:
I really enjoy reading about this sector. It houses a number of terrific companies with business models I find attractive. Payment Services has been one of my fortes and it has rewarded us with investments that have generated market beating results. Payment Services also has a lot going on from both ends of the tech spectrum. On the lower tech side, payment wire service companies have experimented with new fin tech services. On the higher tech side, you have loosely regulated new crypto currencies making headlines. I avoid these so called high flying crypto currencies. They are by nature highly speculative. I seek cash flow and durable competitive advantages. Crypto currencies provide neither.
Interest rates will go up at some point. In some areas they already are going up. Just ask any current home buyer who needs a loan. We do not know how fast and to what degree. A recession can reverse this course but rates will most likely not go down by the same degree similar to the past two economic downturns. Why is that?
It is because there is not as much room for the Central Banks to lower rates the next time around. Interest rates are at historic lows and near zero. As rates go up, the interest rate spread will benefit financial services companies and commercial banks in particular. With banks they are in the unique business of gathering assets and lending those same assets out to generate their profits. A lot can go wrong if they make too many bad loans. My investment approach of seeking quality companies is extra helpful when investing in this sector.
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Will Amazon take over online retail? |
Retail:
There has been a lot of news about retail with many stocks in different subsectors getting punished. The investment world and many in the public at this time believe Amazon will take over all aspects of retail. Amazon is certainly a formidable competitor. I predicted 10 years ago that Amazon would one day over take Walmart in market cap, amidst the recession. It is now more than Walmart’s market valuation.
However, I make a case that Amazon will not take over the retail world. I define take over as owning more than 50% of all retail. The reasons are both structural and demographical. History shows that no retailer has been able to capture anywhere near a majority of American retail sales.
Many people forget or may not know, there was an “Amazon” in the United States. A century ago a company called Sears rose to dominate the American retail landscape. Sears became much more than being the largest retailer by revenues. Sears started or acquired some of the largest companies in a variety of niches. It had one of the largest insurers in Allstate, one of the largest tool makers in Craftsman, one of the largest warranty businesses, and one of the largest appliance makers in Kenmore. You could purchase from Sears a vast variety of items including clothes, toys, groceries, motorcycles, and even houses from its catalog. Sears also came to own one of the largest portfolio of prime real estate in the country. In 1968, Sears employed over 350,000 people. Sears never reached anywhere close to 50% of American retail spending. Sears targeted middle income and affluent customers which is Amazon’s core target market.
A young upstart named Walmart took over the mantle of largest retailer from Sears due to its ultra low pricing big box store concept. Walmart’s focus on price and the lower income customer propelled it to nearly $500 billion in sales last year. Even then, Walmart represents less than 8% of American retail spending.
Since then Amazon has overshadowed Walmart on market valuation even though Walmart still has over three times the sales and ten times the profit. Even with these behemoths, other retailers have existed and thrived.
Amazon has created the convenience and incentive with its concepts such as Amazon Prime to entice repeat shoppers. However, it still has several fundamental hurdles to reach the size of Walmart or Sears during its heyday in sales. Amazon’s core customers are primarily affluent who can afford Prime membership and many of the products it sells. There is a reason Amazon purchased luxury grocery store Whole Foods and not a discount brand such as Dollar Tree.
Amazon is targeting a wide array of industries and geographies. It is spending billions in India and Singapore. Amazon is pushing into groceries with Whole Foods. It is also making a push into auto parts, clothing, jewelry, and other consumer goods. Amazon has been purchasing airplanes, trucks, and warehouses. This does not even include its cloud services which Microsoft is growing at a faster rate. Any company getting into too many fields and actively managing them creates a real risk.
This current dynamic has created investment opportunities in this space.
Retail is an exceptionally tough industry to invest in. There is often very little to no switching cost. Online retail’s rise has pushed this to a new extreme since another store is a click away.
Due to online retailing, luxury retailers are in trouble for the long run. Affluent customers do not get much benefit from shopping at a luxury retailer’s online brand versus any other brand. Affluent customers pay for time and service. Part of their allure were posh stores with exclusive selections that affluent clientele like to visit. Online retailing has changed this dynamic. Luxury retailers do not provide any time savings to online shoppers. If nothing else it often takes them longer to ship products. The exclusivity of selection is not there either.
I like to take the road less traveled as a true contrarian investor. I am also cautious when it comes to retail. The retailers I have invested in are few. They also tend to have some business to business, wholesale component, and their own branded product lines.
An example would be my investment in PetSmart. It grew into America’s largest pet and pet supply retailer with zero leverage. It had a management team that had integrity. PetSmart has unique qualities that are impossible to duplicate online. For example, it operates the largest chain of pet hotels in its stores. It also has heavy pet food and trained expertise that many pet owners enjoy in person. PetSmart has clean, standardized stores. 40% of its products are private labeled or exclusive partnerships such as their National Geographic aquarium tanks. PetSmart had steady cash flow and its financial decisions over time made sense. A private equity consortium bought out our shares.
Overall, no one company will take over the entire retail landscape. If nothing else, a company that gets into too many businesses creates added risk for itself and its shareholders especially if their expected revenue is priced into the stock.